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Michael/Mary Line

Postby CaisterGirl » Thu May 07, 2009 12:50 pm

I am not a seasoned dowser and have a question about the Michael/Mary line. I have read elsewhere online that this line goes from Cornwall to Hopton-on-Sea in Norfolk, goes out to sea, and then it comes back in again at Hemsby, a few miles from where I was born and brought up. Could someone explain to me how the line goes off to sea at Hopton then returns via Hemsby, is this part of a circuit. If anyone knows that it does come back in at Hemsby, could they please tell me where. I live in Devon now but intend taking my rods when I next visit my family in Norfolk. Thanks.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby Rory » Thu May 07, 2009 7:35 pm

Hi Caistergirl

As I understand things from conversations I have had with Hamish Miller, these lines continue on around the world. He found that the Appollo/Athena lines went all across Europe. In my dowsing I have never found any lines to end either.

What I am aware of is that some people also dowse lines where ancient rituals took place and ritual pathways can be found this way. It was suggested that the St Michael and St. Mary lines were just that - ancient ritual pathways - a possible reason for this I believe was that when the lines were dowsed as to a connection to a ritual path, the answer came up yes. I am of the opinion that the lines do exist at a more fundamental spiritual level and that people in the past would have walked along them - quite possibly as a form of meditative pilgramage. I would guess that an enquiring 'few' may well have reached the North Sea and noted that the lines continued on into the water. It may well have been a goal for them to continue on, to keep following the lines, to see where they went - to perhaps reach some spiritual goal. This I think meant they then would have taken to some craft that took them beyond the waves. It would not be unexpected for them to have reached a point far out to see at which they would have to turn back, which is when they turned back to land. Tides would have not taken them back the same way which is why they would have landed elsewhere.

Anyone tracking the lines as ritual pathways would have dowsed/noted their journey in their craft rather than the continuing energy line, which is why some consider the lines to bend back and return to land. I however do not think the fundamental underlying energy lines do this.
Any way just my thoughts on the matter.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby arthur hamlin » Thu May 07, 2009 7:59 pm

Hello Caister Girl,
Welcome if you have not been with us before.
I believe there are several dowsers that have traversed this Michael and Mary route from St Michaels Mount in Cornwall up to Hopton in Norfolk.
I took a special interest in this a short while ago, having just come away from living in Norwich.
From the outsett I can only tell of my dowsing experience here as I`m sure there will be those with different versions to me.
I am of the opinion that all if not nearly all of both the Michael and Mary energy lines represents a trackway made by man, caused by many feet being put down in a similar place to build up the energies flowing from their mind.
My dowsing says there was originally just the Michael Line used by the native people mainly of east anglia as a pilgrimage route to pay homage to a saint mentioned in the old testament who came to St Michaels Mount in Cornwall.
This route was usurped by the Romans when they conquered Briton and forbade the pilgrims from using this track.
Not to be outdone the pilgrims formed a new route now named the Mary Line, but kept within virtual viewing distance of the Michael Line to enable access south.
The energy line reaching out to sea at Hopton and than returning back to land I get as the Mary Line.
This I get was because they had to avoid the Roman look out posts and were able to make landfall after dark.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby arthur hamlin » Thu May 07, 2009 8:38 pm

As a post script I am getting that the line returns slightly north of Hemsby.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby CaisterGirl » Thu May 07, 2009 10:15 pm

Thnak you for that. Very interesting. I've had a little look on a map and see that there is an area just offshore of Hemsby called Hemsby Hole. Can't find out much about it online. To do with shipping, I'm sure, or some kind of sink hole perhaps. My father would have known for sure, having worked on the lightships. Also potentially interesting is the church at Hemsby, St Mary the Virgin and I was a little surprised to see that there is another St Mary the Virgin just up the road in Martham, which is a few miles (5?) NNW of Hemsby. Not wholly surprising - Norfolk is full of churches (and somne very lovely ones too). I have lined up Hemsby and Martham with a ruler on the map (but only a road map, not a decent OS map) and followed the line. It comes out remarkably close to The Shrine of Our Lady in Little Walsingham. I am about to find out about the villages that fall on the line and their churches. Watch this space.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby simonwheeler » Fri May 08, 2009 6:38 am

Don't forget erosion and the ever-changing coastline....eg Dunwich. Only a few hundred years ago the East Anglian coastline was very differently "shaped" to how it is now...and will be in another few hundred years!
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby el-rod » Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:44 am

Sorry to resurrect this topic but I'm interested to see if anyone has a clearly defined route for the Michael and Mary lines available on a google earth overlay, or perhaps on an Ordnance Survey Map
I'm interested in the "Norfolk" end as I've recently map dowsed some ancient kings burial sites that appear to align with a UK overview map showing the Michael/Mary Lines via the google search engine. I've located 4 burial sites that all dowse as being inter-related and all located on a meandering dragon line through the indifferent Norfolk landscape. I initially wondered why there was no natural geographical alignment to the sites and it took a couple of days to realize that there may be a Michael and Mary line association.
I don't know whether other dowsers have a similar problem to me but I find it necessary to use an exact ,or accurate, description of what I'm looking for to get a positive result. Never having dowsed the Michael/Mary line before I find that this 'term' or definition doesn't register in my dowsing nomenclature, I suspect that my dowsing subliminal knowledge is expecting a more precise term for this alignment than the "Michael and Mary Line" which has no doubt been attributed in recent years. I'd be interested to find out any other definitions for this alignment.

Many thanks, Clive
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby Grahame Gardner » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:45 am

Clive, have you seen the Google Earth placemark that David Furlong produced for the Michael alignment? It's only the main alignment, but might be of help.

You can still buy OS maps of the M&M currents as dowsed by Hamish Miller from Penwith Press.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby Kevin » Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:47 pm

el-rod( great name)
If I could offer a few suggestions?
The first is the churchs, check them out and their precise orientations,
http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba94/feat2.shtml
Look at their names. then look for geometry, but not merely straight line geometry , but spiral based geometry that links the self same named churchs in spiral flows.
Then consider a duality of spin based flows, that are best known presently as michael and Mary, and that these flows have main-line concentrations that feed out to every blade of grass.
That these opposite spin flows are TIME, and time flowing in opposite direction, hence they don't mix, unless they spiral together in very special geometric places such as glastonbury tor, and in Avebury.

You have to try and think in scalar fashion, thus in terms of universe right down to the smallest part of each atom, hence,
As above, so below.
Every single part of every atom needs the duality of spin( clockwise and counter-clockwise)
to exist, without a reasonable balance of these two opposite anything will revert to NO-THING.

If You visit Avebury the two flows come together at the cove, near the red lion pub.

I find these flows in variant degreees are omni present, but they feed out in sequence that matchs this sequence,
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233.........infinity.
The sequencing of that geometry produces dominant cross features where the contents feed out into the other orientations where they PINCH together in a geometric centre point, that cross is best visualised as the maltese cross, or order of St John.
The Norman churchs are placed very precisely , imho by the very best dowsers of their TIME, I always tip My hat to them , and whisper ,
Manufique, mes ami's, manufique.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby el-rod » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:25 pm

TO : Grahame Gardner,

Thanks for the information. I tried the David Furlong google earth alignment but found it to be too much of an overview, or too simple of a trajectory line. It clearly passes close to the burial sites I've discovered but I was looking for the meandering tracks of the individual Michael and Mary lines which I hope will traverse the sites.

Your second suggestion, as dowsed by Hamish Miller, looks like just what I'm looking for, god bless his soul! I've ordered the complete set of maps for the entire path.

I'll report back when I've received them.

Many thanks,

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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby el-rod » Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:45 pm

TO : Kevin,

Thank you for the response which you appear to have gone to a great deal of trouble to explain.

The subject never ceases to fascinate me and your findings , or observations, are clearly technically well in advance of my interpretive level of dowsing skills.

The ancient burial sites I've map dowsed are not churches so I don't think I can establish their precise orientation to your geometric formula.

Many thanks,

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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby mike » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:34 pm

I know from my early fishing days there is a Hopton Hole just off the beach, and I think its where I always done well off the beach where the Michael/Mary Lines pass, this position was a hot spot for Cod fishing in the Winter, with my biggest Cod from there at 16LB no less,so the thought of a Hemsby Hole again part of these powerful forces is so interesting, is this a common condition I wonder, have to look next time at Hemsby.Couple of years ago a number of powerful Crop Circles appeared at Hemsby and Martham, in almost a line running west to east towards the sea !! My grandfather was in the trinity bless him and spent years at sea on the light ships (Sam Smith), and I visited Hemsby all the while when I lived at Yarmouth, small world :lol:
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Re: Michael/Mary Line, Norfolk

Postby mike » Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:46 pm

Hi Caistergirl,
Your name is not Pat and used to sit on the seat at the position across from the Church on the corner did you, now that would be a really small world if it was you, where the road to Caister Castle ran, and the other one going to Caister Camp,those were good times, no worries and long hair and my own boss, it takes me back :mrgreen:
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Re: Michael/Mary Line

Postby Grahame Gardner » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:27 pm

el-rod wrote:I'm interested to see if anyone has a clearly defined route for the Michael and Mary lines available on a google earth overlay, or perhaps on an Ordnance Survey Map

I'm resurrecting this thread as I've just discovered this fantastic Google Maps file of the entire Michael Line, showing the alignment and the Michael/Mary currents, with some lovely paintings illustrating various points along it.

I don't know who put this together, but it's a major undertaking and a fantastic service to the community. To you (whoever you are), I tip my hat.
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Re: Michael/Mary Line

Postby mike » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:21 pm

The Michael and Mary Line does change each year in width and size, so if it was a pathway Im sure it would remain the same size.For me its a natural energy/Ley Line of the planet and responds to the 4 year cycle of increase/decrease, and it moves to the phases of the Moon as well.I believe in the past ancient man walked these special energy lines to feel its influence and show respect, as people do today those with open hearts and minds....Im sure paths like these do spread right across the planet, so while we know this line as the Michael Mary Line, abroad it may well be called something else...It would prove interesting to follow the path right across the north sea just to see where it goes, and look for the same line going west perhaps, just north of the Scilly Isles in my opinion.

Just dowsed the Avebury Stone Avenue and I believe the Michael Mary Line to be 16 wide at this moment, it over spills the Stone Avenue some distance west, and would be 64 wide at peak cycle, right to the edge of the field on the west side...December 3rd it will change again, but I dont know if its on increase or decrease in size/width....Check after Dec 3rd and report back here, NO chance to visit just at the moment to confirm.
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