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Re: The Catstones

Postby arthur hamlin » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:17 pm

Hello George,
Another interesting story.
I have dowsed this and am told that the stones you found were placed there because this is the burial ground for cats. I`m told the so called ley lines are man made tracks dating back approx 9000 years. I`m also told that the young cat that keeps disturbing you at night is not one that was buried on catstone hill but was most likely one that lived in your house or closeby. I`m told this cat needs help as it was bludgeoned to death by a man about 20 years ago, and has emotional problems relating to its passing.
If you are not able to get help to this cat, I can request help so the cat is brought here and we can get it healed and escorted home?.
Happy new year.
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Re: The Catstones

Postby Grahame Gardner » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:37 pm

Jolly interesting tale, George. Thanks for sharing it with us.
The name 'catstones' crops up quite a lot in megalithic areas - there are sites with that name all over the country. The derivation is thought to be from the Celtic 'cath', meaning a battle, because they often mark the site of a battle (from here). Could be significant in light of your other posts on that subject?

The closest stone circle to Nottingham, was a place in Derbyshire, called Arbor Low.

I would have thought that the circles on Stanton Moor are a bit closer than Arbor Low?

I remember at the time, that there was a guy called Paul Deveraux, who was king in the dowsing world.LOL.

Is that a teensy note of sarcasm I detect there? :P
I don't think Paul Devereux would thank you for that appellation, as he went off dowsing big time back in the 1980's - particularly the field of earth energy dowsing. However, we had him as a guest speaker at our 2007 conference so he has obviously mellowed somewhat in recent years. I have recordings of the field trip to the Rollrights that he led, which I'm hoping to edit together into a podcast at some point soon.
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Re: The Catstones

Postby arthur hamlin » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:11 pm

Hello George,
Now you can take your pick.
Grahame has sought his answer from elsewhere. But I feel that as this eludes to monolithic structures I feel that the small stones you mention are something else.
I can only tell you what my dowsing says, and the next contributor may say something different yet again.
Now lets see what this cat is like that troubled you.
Let me know if you feel the difference?
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Re: The Catstones

Postby Ian Pegler » Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:46 am

This is interesting.......How sure a fact, is this Graham?


The University of Wales dictionary gives the following definitions for cath...

1) cat, wild-cat

2) cat, tip-cat, cat o' nine tails


In the Welsh Triads and the Black Book of Carmarthen there are references to Cath Palug. This was a giant cat.

There is a Welsh word cad which means battle. Also cataf or catau means to fight.

Hope this helps

Ian

Edited by I.P. 4.1.09 - retrospectively corrected my own erroneous reference to the Mabinogion, to prevent further duplication of the error.
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Re: The Catstones

Postby Ian Pegler » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:41 am

In the Mabinogion tales there is a reference to Cath Palug. This was a giant cat.


I need to correct myself here. Cath Palug is not mentioned in the Mabinogion. It is mentioned in
the Welsh Triads and the Black Book of Carmarthen. I confused my sources. :oops:

Sorry about that. Miaaaooww Culpa. :mrgreen:

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Re: The Catstones

Postby Grahame Gardner » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:35 pm

Ian Pegler wrote: Miaaaooww Culpa. :mrgreen:


Grooooaaaan!

This is turning into a very interesting topic, I have to say.
georgek wrote:This is interesting.......How sure a fact, is this Graham?

Ian, the pronunciation of cad would be 'cath', would it not? It may be just differences between Scots and Welsh Gaelic that we are looking at here. Although after a bit more Googling I found this on Wikipedia:
The word 'Cat' probably has little to do with the English word and is more likely related to the modern Welsh 'Cath' meaning 'battle'.

And then there's this:
In Scotland, groups of menhirs are often called cat stones, from Gaelic cath ‘a battle’.

The Cat Stane at Kirkliston, which is now actually beside the runway at Edinburgh Airport, is definitely thought to mark a battle site, although according to RCAHMS it may have been recycled as a grave marker. So perhaps there is something to the 'cat cemetery' theory after all?
Although just to muddy the waters further, there is an alternative explanation on Ancient Stones, referring to another Cat Stane in Edinburgh:
"cat" also means footpath, track or drove road.
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Hmmmm. So much for the etymology.

I also found reference to a Cat Stone on Stanton Moor, and here is an article by yer man Frank Earp where he mentions the Cat Stone (singular) and lines connecting it to other sites, complete with OS reference, which may be of help?

georgek wrote:As for Arbor Low......

Our group based a lot of our ways on a person I seem to recall as George King. This man produced some kind of battery, which he later discharched for certain purposes. Indeed in latter times, this gentleman was perhaps best forgotten, as there was an awful lot of controversy connected with him. :oops:

Ah yes, George King of the Aetherius Society. Now he was a very colourful character indeed. Although the work he was doing with his 'prayer battery' is not too far removed from what Fountain groups do these days.
That you were using Arbor Low as a focus makes perfect sense now that you explain the situation; it is the most important site in the area so logical to send the energy there.

Things are taking a decidedly Fortean turn here, and whilst I was never dismissing the 'site guardian' theory, in light of your new information about your Light Group I think we do need to be looking at a more esoteric explanation for your feline visitations.
I'm not too happy with the cat sacrifice explanation - cats have always been sacred animals to witches and were often used as familiars; it was also a favourite form for shape-shifting witches to adopt. It seems unlikely that it would be a pagan sacrifice.
And then there are stories of the animal kings - groups of animals or birds have been sighted acting in concert, apparently under the direction of one supreme beast (the 'king'). Here is an interesting tale of such an encounter involving cats, no less!
It's also interesting that even today we still have lots of sightings of ABC's (Alien Big Cats) cropping up all over the British countryside, usually large black panther-like cats at that (as Ian pointed out in his Cath Palug reference). We are definitely in the realm of the archetype here. It could be that your meditation group manifested a feline thought-form that somehow attached itself to you. It could also be that this is an animal spirit guide trying to get your attention, although from your description of its hostile attitude that maybe isn't so likely.
Then there is the tradition of walling cats up in chimney breasts or other parts of a building to act as site guardian. I don't know how old your house is, but could this be a possible explanation?

Disturbances like this often crop up during building work, particularly where boundaries are disrupted as in your case. I would look to the building work on your house as a primary cause rather than the cat stones.
I'm not getting permission to dowse on the matter myself - probably because I'm full of the cold at present - but I would be looking at something along those lines. You need to find out what it wants from you. Maybe it has a message to impart, maybe it needs to show you something, maybe it needs your help as Arthur suggests, or maybe it just needs some sort of acknowledgement from you before it can move on, for instance setting up a small cat 'shrine' with a statue or picture in an appropriate location.
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Re: The Catstones

Postby Ian Pegler » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:37 am

Grahame Gardner wrote:Ian, the pronunciation of cad would be 'cath', would it not?


No. Here's a quick guide:

d - in Welsh a single 'd' is pronounced 'd', just as in English.

dd - in Welsh 'dd' is pronounced as a hard 'th' as in 'this' or 'that'

th - in Welsh 'th' is pronounced as a soft 'th' as in 'thank' or 'myth'


So cad is pronounced 'cad' and cath is pronounced with a soft 'th' as in 'cathy'

It may be just differences between Scots and Welsh Gaelic that we are looking at here.


Strictly speaking Scots and Irish Gaelic are Q-Celtic whereas Welsh is P Celtic so it's technically incorrect to refer to Welsh as Gaelic.

Although after a bit more Googling I found this on Wikipedia:
The word 'Cat' probably has little to do with the English word and is more likely related to the modern Welsh 'Cath' meaning 'battle'.


I would suggest that the Wikipedia entry is wrong. Cath means cat, not battle.

Where georgek sees a serpent represented in stone, I see a paw-print!

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Re: The Catstones

Postby simonwheeler » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:13 pm

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Re: The Catstones

Postby An Ri Rua » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:23 pm

Interstingly, the Stone of Divisions, the sacred centre of Ireland, on the Hill of Uisneach, is called Aill na Mireann i.e. stone of divisions or also known as the Catstone. Some say its called that because it looks like a cat crouching, about to pounce,. But realising now that there's another cat stone, and that we have a handful of famous mystical caves in Ireland named Poll na Gcat (cave of the cat), it's increasingly obvious to me that the catstone relates to this catstone connection and has nothing to do with a visual description.

Hill of Uisneach http://www.hoganstand.com/general/Identity/extras/heritage/stories/uisneach.htm

Stone of divisions / Aill na Mireann / Cat Stone http://www.megalithomania.com/show/site/81/Hill+Of+Uisneach.htm

Happy New Year all you dowsers


ps i edited this because I'd inadvertently typed the 'scared centre of Ireland' :lol:
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Re: The Catstones

Postby An Ri Rua » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:32 pm

georgek wrote:It would be fantastic, if you could dowse this spot. I am holding things back a little, as I do not want to influence any wrong readings. As things may not be connected. There is still this matter of a dog that enters my bed and grips it's teeth into my right wrist. I dare not move, until it fades. This has been explained by another psychic, yet I would welcome any further thoughts on this?

The cat, was quite nasty....but I did whack it, as I could not sleep with it walking on me.

George


George, if this is while you were sleeping, I've had similar experiences over the years though I have only visualised the unwelcome visitor on one occasion, when I was a child and it was in the form of a white silhouette over my younger brother's bed. It lasted for many long minutes. This link to night entities may be of interest? http://www.confusion.discover-your-mind.co.uk/6a-night-entities.htm
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Re: The Catstones

Postby Satyr » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:11 am

George, a book on symbolism I have says that the cat is a symbol of tranformation, clairvoyance, agility, watchfulness, sensual beauty and female malice. Do any of those make any sense you you. If you can figure out why the cat is there, it will probably disappear. Have you tried 'asking' it why its bothering you? or alternatively, have you tried banishing it?

with regard to the dog, when it grips your wrist, does it do so, viciously or does it just hold your wrist in its jaws? Normally if a dog comes up to you and gently holds your hand or wrist in its jaws, its acknowledging you as a dominant pack animal in its 'pack'. I often get this from dogs, probably cause I'm the kind of person who doesn't stand for any nonsense, therefore they see me as a dominant female. If it does it gently, then, it could then be one of your totem animals or spirit guides.
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Re: The Catstones

Postby arthur hamlin » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:44 pm

Hello George,
In reverse of your experiences which sound awful I am able unless I`m very much mistaken to get reasonable contact with spirit creatures both wild and tame.
But I find it does take time to build up confidence and ability. I also feel it really helps to build up decisive physical movements of your hands/arms/body via dowsing unless you can operate otherwise.
Again I feel that I`m taking liberties but in order to help you the following is re-laid to me:-
Your all black cat came to me at my request a few days ago and sat on my desk in front of me.
I asked what size it was and my hands went out to show me. This was at least 2feet from nose to back side but 3 feet if you add on the tail - so big!. It may seem difficult to accept but spirit animals are able to communicate at a much higher level of intelligence than what we experience when physical.
I normally ask 3 questions in one to speed up the process to obtain the story. In other words I would say - Is it this, by pointing to the left, is it this by pointing straight ahead, or is it this by pointing to the right. My hand would than choose which position would be the answer. In this instance as I`ve already said the cat was killed by a man about 20 years ago and its anger has stopped it moving on and you were its easy host.
I`m told this spirit cat got to you because your emotional energy field was down to Zero and to be healthy and protected needs to extend approx 2 feet 6 inches out from you. As I write I`m told that it is approx 6 inches thick. It is possible you are still going through emotional stress.
I hope you are now free of this cats problems.
Again I`m getting that your emotional energy field was at Zero when the dog took hold of your arm in its jaws. I`m told as per the previous contribution that this dog was not viscious or angry but was acknowledging you as the head of its pack.
I`m told it is the mind that produces the emotional and mental energy fields and that much of the trouble we have whether spiritual or physical is due to stress here and than fanning out to the rest of our body.
I hope that is of some help.
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Re: The Catstones

Postby arthur hamlin » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:47 pm

Hello George,
I also have no reason to doubt your sincerity, but okay lets have a go with this dog.
Already my hands are hardly waiting for me to get started.
1. I`m told this is a small young dog, killed by another approx 15 years ago. This occured approx 60 miles west of where you live now.
2. I`m getting its head was mauled by this larger dog when its neck was broken. It is angry because of its early death and of the other dog. It is attracted to your emotional energies and is comforted by them. It believes that being with you will bring it relief.
3. I`m told it is here because of its anger and cannot move on because of it.
George, I hope that helps,
If you wish for me to send for the dog so that healing may be given just say so, but somehow I feel it would be useful if you were able to carry out this work. Once you can achieve this it can be very satisfying and is not really difficult, just a matter of application and working from the heart.
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Re: The Catstones

Postby Frank E Earp » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:53 pm

Hi Folks,
It's time I entered this debate. The Cat Stones. This is my title for a complex of fabricated stones on Catstone Hill near the village of Strelley, Nottinghamshire. The original stone, - the Cat Stone, - disappeared due to quarrying of the site. The existing stones, - around 100yds. from the Cat Stone site are set in a depression in the ground deliberately making them invisible on the horizon. At the center of the complex is a pillar of excavated rock resembling the natural feature, the Hemlock stone, (around one and a quarter miles to the south. Around this stone has been place several earth fast boulders weighing several tons each. A further stone resembles a fallen monolith. The design of the site is such that in order to view the surrounding landscape, it is necessary to use the rock pillar as a rostrum. My research has shown that the complex is a working Bronze Age calendar. Site line mark May Day (Beltane) sunrise 1800 -1700 B.C. and Samain sunset (same date). Interacting with sites in the surrounding landscape it is possible to compensate for the leap year anomaly. The name Cat Stone, I believe is derived from a name for the goddess as winter hag, - Cat Annis. The rock pillar when viewed from Sunrise Hill, Bestwood, marks the Samain sun set. It is at this this time that the winter hag returns, having turned herself to stone on the rising of the sun on 1st May.
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Re: The Catstones

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