Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:52 pm

Dara O'Briain has been actively encouraging his fans to post bogus enties on the AA petition:

the following is a tweet from Dara O'Brain...

the astrology people won't be happy with a petition filled with "First name: Astrologyis, Second name: Myarse". They get quite tetchy y'know

11:37 AM Jan 21st via Twitter for iPhone


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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:08 pm

a bit OT, but sort of related...

MP urges reforms to BBC to end 'feudal monarchy'

An MP has called on the public to be given a much greater say over programmes made by the BBC and salaries paid to top performers and managers.


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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby simonwheeler » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:30 pm

I've just read some of his Tweets and he has not gone up in my estimation! Here's a picture he retweeted:

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Not exactly original, is it?!

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:37 pm

The link for the BBC complaints form is here...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/

They've had at least a couple of hundred already.

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:34 pm

On it goes... According to a recent JREF article by a Dr. David Robert Grimes, the Parke Kundle fiasco is all the fault of the media for running a sensationalist story - not Parke Kundle's fault at all:

Churn the other cheek (JREF article)

Why is none of this Parke Kundle's fault, for making exactly the same mistake that Richard Dawkins and many other skeptics regularly make?

Dr. David Robert Grimes wrote:And to make the situation more ridiculous as if it weren't enough already, orbital precession has no effect on the tropical or western astrology, which sets its reference points as the tropics [sic] and is thus not affected by axial precession


With the above statement Dr. David Robert Grimes has quite unwittingly debunked Richard Dawkins!

newspapers will run a stupid story verbatim


Clearly then professional astronomers are not to be trusted??

even if it would take all of 20 seconds on Wikipedia to refute it.


Pity no skeptics ever thought to do that then, isn't it?

Another one for the Oi Vey files I think...

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:33 am

from WalesOnline...

Professor Brian Cox slates believers in ghosts online

TELEVISION scientist Professor Brian Cox has slammed people who believe in ghosts – labelling them “nobbers”.

The slick scientist, pictured, attracted a slew of complaints from listeners after he repeatedly poked fun at believers with comedian Robin Ince on his Radio 4 show The Infinite Monkey Cage during a discussion of science and the supernatural.


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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Helen-Healing » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:49 pm

I don't believe in Brian Cox - does that make me a *nobber* too?
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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:29 pm

The programme also featured Prof. Richard Wiseman whose latest book is doing so well in the U.K.(???) that he can't find a single publisher in the whole of the U.S.A. who will give him a decent publishing deal ! Consequently he has been forced down the route of self-publishing (JREF link here)

The really interesting thing is that the people who think they are less gullible than believers will fall for this hook line and sinker !

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:37 am

from the BBC...

BBC praised for science coverage

BBC science coverage is of "high quality and significant quantity", an independent review has found.

But the report, by genetics professor Steve Jones, said the BBC "must make a distinction between well-established fact and opinion".

Attempts at balance were giving "free publicity to marginal opinions", the BBC Trust-published report said.


CLICK HERE for the article.

With regard to Brian Cox's recent comments about Astrology see pages 59 and 60 of the report.

A brief citation:

Disagreement, scepticism and questioning are the life‐blood both of science and of serious journalism; unthinking opposition is not.


I couldn't agree more - but who is doing the "unthinking"??

Some unsurprising information about Prof. Steve Jones, from Wikipedia:

Professor Jones is a Distinguished Supporter of the British Humanist Association. He was awarded the second Irwin Prize for Secularist of the Year by the National Secular Society on 7 October 2006.


So much for the "independance" of this report..!

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:45 pm

from the Daily Telegraph...

Month a baby is born 'suggests what career they will have'

The time of year a baby is born can shape what profession they will embark on in later life, a new study has suggested.


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It's predictive, influenced by the annual cycles but somehow it's not astrology???

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:55 pm

I just received the following e-mail from the Astrological Association:

Thank you for Supporting our Petition

The Astrological Association is grateful to every one of you who stood up for astrology by supporting our petition to the British Broadcasting Corporation, asking that it address the unfair representation of astrology. Thank you so much.

Recent criticism of the BBC Complaints System, from the BBC Trust that actually governs the Corporation, has shown how difficult it is even for hi-profile commercial complainants to obtain a formal apology from the BBC. So, although some personal apologies have been made we are unlikely to receive a public one. We were pleased to note that, no further attacks have been made on subsequent BBC programmes.

As well as delivering the petition to the Corporation, a wide range of communications and representations have been made, and will continue to be made at the necessary levels of media regulation. A steady, developing process of actions is needed to create a climate of fairness toward astrology that enables public understanding of the nature and value of its many levels and uses.

Having a good number of people behind our representations makes all the difference.

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Helen-Healing » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:43 pm

Ian Pegler wrote:from the Daily Telegraph...

Month a baby is born 'suggests what career they will have'

The time of year a baby is born can shape what profession they will embark on in later life, a new study has suggested.


CLICK HERE to read the report.


A child born December is more likely to become a dentist while someone whose birthday falls in January will tend to a debt collector, they found.

What a load of codswallop! :roll: I despair.
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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Lyndon Ronstadt » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:09 pm

Astrology is a faith based discipline. In this day and age we question everything - including the tenets of religion - but not, apparently, astrology.

Why just the ecliptic? Why not the whole sky? Does the whole plethora of keywords apply to a given birth chart?

Astrology needs to be wrested from the hands of the mystics and placed firmly under scientific scrutiny. Sadly, when it comes to rational analysis, scientists are as irrational in their respective positions as is the mystic.

If science were to ask a few basic questions of astrology as they would any other subject and then cooperate with the mystics/intuitives to find the answers, we might bring this subject out of the dark ages and understand it better.
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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:04 am

simonwheeler wrote:
There's lately been a lot of talk about 'new dates' for the zodiac signs and even a 'new sign'. This, though, is nothing 'new'. It's the same old nonsense that gets trotted out every 20 years or so by astronomers who think the twelve signs of the zodiac must be the same as the 12 constellations (or star groups). Actually, they're not and may never have been - although once they correlated more closely. 'Aha,' they think, 'Astrologers must be too stupid to notice this.' So without doing any more research, they issue a press release or write a book.

...from J. Cainer's site...which can be found by clicking here.

Edited by I.P. 11.1.13 - changed link to permanent link containing the above quote


More on this from J. Cainer - CLICK HERE.

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Re: Astronomy professor suggests zodiac signs are wrong

Postby Ian Pegler » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:07 am

Same old same old ... this time resurrected by NASA.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-37419182

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