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Spiritual, but not religious

Postby simonwheeler » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:43 pm

Research has suggested "spiritual" people may suffer worse mental health than conventionally religious, agnostic or atheist people. But what exactly do people mean when they describe themselves as "spiritual, but not religious"?


On the BBC News Magazine website

many now call themselves "spiritual" but not religious. About a fifth of people in the UK fit into this category, according to Prof Michael King from University College London

Colin Beckley, director of the Meditation Trust, says the only true spiritual experience is silence.

But for some, spirituality is a byword for irrational beliefs and a sense that anything goes.
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Re: Spiritual, but not religious

Postby Helen-Healing » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:12 pm

For me, saying that I'm 'spiritual but not religious' is a way of telling those who wish to know, to mind their own business.
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Re: Spiritual, but not religious

Postby simonwheeler » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:41 am

Religious people are less intelligent than atheists


"Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits," the researchers wrote.
"More intelligent people get higher level jobs (and better employment (and higher salary) may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs."


Article in The Independent newspaper
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Re: Spiritual, but not religious

Postby Ian Pegler » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:08 pm

simonwheeler wrote:
Religious people are less intelligent than atheists


"Intelligent people typically spend more time in school - a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits," the researchers wrote.
"More intelligent people get higher level jobs (and better employment (and higher salary) may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs."


Article in The Independent newspaper


Within hours Wikipedia was updated with this new "science". No surprise there.

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Re: Spiritual, but not religious

Postby Geoff Stuttaford » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:13 am

Simon’s quote……” Research has suggested "spiritual" people may suffer worse mental health than conventionally religious, agnostic or atheist people. But what exactly do people mean when they describe themselves as "spiritual, but not religious"?


Spirituality…….It would appear that there is only one form of spirituality and that is to do with the improvement of the state of the soul, but, the approach to that condition varies depending on an individual’s belief system that can have a religious or non-religious basis.


It is sometimes considered that spirituality can only be associated with religion because most religions teach the difference between their interpretations of “good” and “evil”. There is no reason why an atheist cannot have his or her interpretation of good and evil if that is all that is needed to form the basis of improving one’s spirituality.


Could it not be said that spirituality is a rather nebulous term that is often used by people who like to use the word without knowing exactly what it means ?

How many people live their lives with the sole intention of improving their spirituality ?

Is it a word whose meaning is defined by an individual according to his/her belief system ?

Is it not possible that those with mental health problems, who are religious,
are too concerned with sinning and redemption that it can affect then minds ?

If that is the case, who needs spirituality ?
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Re: Spiritual, but not religious

Postby ledgehammer » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:42 pm

semantics

call yourself what you will, words seldom define absolutely.

religion is a way of life so technically we are all religeous whether we worship God Jesus, audi or money.

too much emphasis is spent on emposing definition, too much emphasis is spent. reaching an ideal or collective definition.

Spirituality is personal and has no place within others definition, this should have nothing to do with mental illness but more something so personal it simply is not understood by others.

finally, for our level of understanding we really are too involved to truly understand.

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