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Humans 'an ultra-social' species

Postby Ian Pegler » Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:43 am

So much for the Selfish Gene... :mrgreen:

Humans 'an ultra-social' species

Richard Dawkins' famous work The Selfish Gene has, rightly or wrongly, been seen as giving currency to that world view and it pervades other areas of life, like business or politics.

"It's not about selfishness and it's not about genes. I'd like to dispense with those two words all together," he told the Today programme.


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Re: Humans 'an ultra-social' species

Postby Lyndon Ronstadt » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:38 am

Perhaps there's a simpler way of looking at this. If a group has it's back to the wall in survival terms and there is no surplus generated by it's efforts, the common instinct is cooperation. When the crisis has passed and group effort creates a surplus, then the most able hog for themselves what surplus there is and leave the less able with little more than they had during the cooperative period.

If cooperation is the instinctive response of a group in crisis, what does this tell us about the benefits of cooperation in a non crisis situation?
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Re: Humans 'an ultra-social' species

Postby Ian Pegler » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:40 am

Whilst we are on the subject of Richard Dawkins...

Slaves at the root of the fortune that created Richard Dawkins' family estate

The ancestors of Richard Dawkins, the atheist campaigner against superstition, intolerance and suffering, built their fortune using slaves, it has been revealed.


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Re: Humans 'an ultra-social' species

Postby simonwheeler » Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:08 pm

From The Independent newspaper,with headline:
Why Richard Dawkins is no scientist, the survival of the least selfish, and what ants can tell us about humans


Main header reads:
No one knows more about ants than E O Wilson. Which is why his U-turn on long-held beliefs about their biological altruism has met with outrage from academia. The unrepentant Pulitzer prizewinner and naturalist talks to Steve Connor

Wilson:
“Within groups, selfish individuals beat altruistic individuals but in the selection of other traits of individuals that are interactive with other individuals – social traits – then groups of altruists defeat groups of selfish individuals,” Wilson explains. “In a nutshell, individual selection favours what we call sin and group selection favours virtue.”
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As we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

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Re: Humans 'an ultra-social' species

Postby Helen-Healing » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:40 pm

My goodness, I had to look up myrmecologist! OK, one who studies ants.

Personally I see an ant colony more as an organism or entity - as in the human body - where each part has its job to do & does it efficiently (if we are healthy.)
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